No, it’s not OK to call your boss a “Dickhead”

The media had a field day last week with a story that an Employment Tribunal had ruled that being sacked for calling your boss a “Dickhead” was grounds for Unfair Dismissal. As always when it comes to the reporting of Employment Law stories, the old adage “never let the truth get in the way of a good story” applies here.

The case involved a Ms Herbert, who was sacked from the small construction business she worked for by its Operations Director.  He was also Ms Herbert’s brother in law, and was married to the Managing Director who was therefore her sister in law.

Most of the facts were disputed – included the date Ms Herbert was dismissed. The only consistent fact that everyone agreed on was that at some point in the meeting where she alleged she was dismissed, she used the words “fucking dickheads” to describe the Operations Director and his wife.

The reason she won her case was that the company made a complete pig’s ear of dealing with the situation. In fact pretty much everything they could have got wrong they did.

  • When the ‘dickheads’ comment was made, the Operations Director told Ms Herbert to ‘get out’ and that she was ‘sacked’
  • The company then tried to construct a case about Ms Herbert’s misconduct and hold a later disciplinary hearing on a series of alleged serious breaches of company rules. She refused to participate in this process on the basis that the company had already sacked her.
  • The context in which the comment was made was not enough to justify a gross misconduct dismissal – and therefore she was entitled to be paid notice. In fact their company policy said that use of ‘insulting and abusive language’ would only result in dismissal if a prior warning had been given.

There are three important takeaways for small businesses from this case – none of which are around what Ms Herbert said

  • Employment Tribunals deal with the facts in each individual case. This decision does not set a precedent in any way, and especially it doesn’t give a green light for employees to abuse their bosses without penalty.
  • To make a dismissal fair, you have to have a fair reason and follow a fair procedure. The judge did conclude that Ms Herbert’s behaviour could well have been a fair reason but the Operations Directors ‘spur of the moment’ decision was not in any way a fair process.
  • The case shows starkly how long the tribunal process is taking – the events of this case happened in 2022 but the decision was not published until last week. Regardless of who is right or wrong, having a claim that takes 3 years to resolve is not a sensible way to resolve employment disputes (and as this article shows, this is not an untypical timescale)

There but for the Gracie of God…

 

About 6 months ago, I wrote this post about BBC pay and the gender pay gap. Rather naively, I stated in that post “I can’t believe a major national organisation with extensive HR and legal resources would expose itself to such a reputational and financial risk” by breaching equal pay legislation. It appears I was wrong.

As has been widely reported, the BBC’s China Editor, Carrie Gracie, resigned at the weekend, citing the corporation’s failure to pay her at the same level as male colleagues doing the same job in different parts of the world. Reading her public post explaining her reasons for resignation, it appears that she does have the potential for a successful claim.

Equal Pay is either pretty straightforward – men and women doing the same job must be paid the same* – or complex – men and women doing jobs of equivalent value must be paid the same (this is complex because working out the “equivalent value” can be difficult and time-consuming to establish).

Ms Gracie’s case however seems to fall into the former category. As I understand it, there are a group of 4 senior journalists within the BBC who undertake editor roles for distinct regions of the world (Europe, North America, China, Middle East).  So essentially there are 4 people who are doing the ‘same’ job – two of whom are men and two women.

Can the BBC justify a salary difference? It could, if it was able to show that the difference was due to

a)       Work Performance

b)      Geography

c)       Market forces

d)      Special duties or responsibilities

e)      Greater skill and experience

Obviously, I can’t comment in any detail on most of those areas. But given the individuals in the 4 editor roles are long serving experienced BBC journalists, it would seem that reasons a), c) and e) are unlikely.  Reason d) would seem to apply equally to all 4 – all of them undertake other BBC jobs (presenting on TV or radio etc), which leaves us with simply geography as the reason.

On that basis, I could probably argue a case that the Middle East editor should be paid higher (due to the need to visit war zones/higher degree of personal risk etc) and it might be justifiable to pay slightly differently if the cost of living were significantly different between countries/regions.  But otherwise I’m struggling to see how the BBC will justify a difference in salary.

We’ll see how Ms Gracie’s claim does over time. But the message for my clients and other readers is that you should be paying men and women the same* for doing the same job and differences can only be justified for one of the reasons highlighted. A claim may not be as publicly damaging to your organisation but it has the potential to be very expensive.

(*To be clear, the same can mean within the same pay scale/band, not necessarily an identical salary)

 

 

ET Fees – what should small organisations do?

You’ve probably seen today’s news that the Supreme Court has ruled that the current Employment Tribunal fees system is unlawful, primarily because it denies individuals the ability to exercise the rights granted to them by Parliament. If you run a small business or charity, you may wonder what this means for you. Here are some key tips

  1. Don’t panic – today’s ruling simply restores the legal situation to what it was in 2013.
  2. Treat Employees legally and fairly – you should be doing this anyway, most employers already do. If you’re not sure exactly what you should be doing, my posts here and here may help
  3. If you do get a claim from someone relating to a past dismissal (or other issue), alleging they were unable to make a claim at the time due to the fees, seek advice immediately. 
  4. Don’t believe the hysterical nonsense in the Daily Mail (actually, that’s true of most employment law issues)
  5. See point 2